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Giants in Tech => Intel => Topic started by: javajolt on January 31, 2011, 11:56:36 PM

Title: What to do if you've already received a flawed Sandy Bridge desktop
Post by: javajolt on January 31, 2011, 11:56:36 PM
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Intel's $700 million design flaw

Following the news this morning about the serial-ATA chip flaw in Intel's new Sandy Bridge-supporting chipsets, we immediately thought of the two (soon to be three) Sandy Bridge-powered PC's we've reviewed since the January 9 launch.

In addition to the PCs we've gotten our hands on from Falcon Northwest and Origin (and soon Maingear), virtually every other large and small desktop vendor has been shipping Sandy Bridge-equipped PCs for the past few weeks.

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In light of this chipset flaw, whether you've spent $5,000 on a gaming system or $1,000 on a more modest desktop or all-on-one, you'd be right to want to know whether you need to send your system back, as well as who is going to pay for and parts, labor, or shipping costs.

First, the problem. According to Intel: "In some cases, the Serial-ATA (SATA) ports within the chipsets may degrade over time, potentially impacting the performance or functionality of SATA-linked devices such as hard disk drives and DVD-drives."

A vendor who requested anonymity (Update: Intel is now on the record with the details of the flaw) told us the problem actually affects serial ATA ports two through five on a six-port motherboard. The affected ports are all Serial ATA II, so if you ordered a higher-end Serial ATA III/6.0 hard drive (and the vendor connected it to the right port), you should be safe (upgrade path anxieties not withstanding). If you do have components connected to the afflicted ports, we're told you may not ever see the issue. Intel told Anandtech regarding the frequency of the flaw: "over 3 years of use it would see a failure rate of approximately 5 - 15% depending on usage model." If the issue does manifest itself, you will experience slower read and write performance, but data integrity, according to Intel, won't be an issue.

If the flaw does indeed occur irregularly, and over time, it may not be something we can reliably test for ourselves on current Sandy Bridge boards. We didn't notice performance issues on the three Sandy Bridge systems we've already tested. If there's no guarantee that you will ever encounter the problem, you may even want to gamble, rather than suffer the downtime and general hassle of shipping your new system back for repair, especially when it's unclear how long you'll have to wait before the replacement motherboards are ready.

On the other hand, whether you've spent $5,000 or $1,000 on a brand new desktop, you'd be right to want to feel confident that your new PC will deliver the performance and reliability you paid for.

As to who will pay for a return or motherboard replacement, we have asked several vendors for comment. From what we gather, this news was a surprise to most, if not all of them, and they are still working out details with Intel regarding the particulars of any recall. Following are the responses from each desktop vendor we've heard from so far. Don't interpret the absence of comment as a sign that a vendor will be unresponsive, however.

Acer/eMachines/Gateway

We recently began shipping models with the affected Intel chipsets to our retail and e-tail customers, and we're currently working with these partners to determine whether any end-users have received these systems. We will be collaborating with Intel to rework any systems with the affected parts, and we expect to have an update by end of day tomorrow about any potential impact to consumers and the associated recall plan, should one be required. Because we are still early in the launch cycle for our Sandy Bridge product line, we expect the impact to Acer's business and our customers to be minimal.

Intel

In response to how it will respond to customers who have purchased Intel-made motherboards at retail with the affected chipsets:

All we are saying now publicly is here (http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/01/31/intel-identifies-chipset-design-error-implementing-solution?cid=rss-258152-c1-264102)

Maingear

Today we were made aware of an issue with Intel's Sandy Bridge platform, Cougar Point. This issue relates to the chips used in all P67 and H67 motherboards compatible with Sandy Bridge processors, but it does NOT affect the Sandy Bridge processor itself.

It should be emphasized that Maingear has over one man year of testing and validation invested in Sandy Bridge and we have not see one instance of this issue in any test platform or customer system. Furthermore, we were just made aware of this issue this morning by Intel, and NOBODY, not a single motherboard partner, OEM, or integrator has had any information on this prior to today.

Customers who have a system today should not worry and may continue to use their system. When we have our replacement motherboards in March, we will pay shipping back and forth and of course cover the labor costs associated with swapping out the motherboard. All current Sandy Bridge customers will have their motherboard warranty extended to 3 years from the date of purchase as well, covering the new motherboard.

Alternatively, customers who have a Sandy Bridge system but do not want to send it back in, and customers who have yet to have their system ship but want it to ship immediately are eligible to receive, at no charge, a SATA 3G discrete hard drive controller so they may be able to expand their storage as needed without utilizing the affected SATA ports 2-5.

Customers who have yet to receive their system may alternatively call in to have their order halted until we get replacement motherboards in March.

Maingear will have more information as the situation develops.

Origin

We are working closely with Intel and ASUS on all motherboards that we have in the field that are affected. We are proactively contacting customers to provide a replacement motherboard and all costs including parts, shipping, and labor will be covered by ORIGIN as per our standard warranty coverage.

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Also, Puget Systems has a lengthy response written up on its Web site. You can read it here (http://www.pugetsystems.com/blog/2011/01/31/information-about-intel-sandy-bridge-flaw/). We'll keep adding responses as we get them.